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Stolen Works of Art
Minutes
International conference on cultural property stolen in Iraq
Lyon, 5 - 6 May 2003

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  Opening speech by Mr Mounir Bouchenaki, assistant director general for culture, UNESCO
  Looting of cultural property in Iraq: presentations by experts
  International initiatives to combat the traffic in Iraqi cultural property: exchange of views
  Introduction to operational police strategies
  Speeches by Mr John Ashcroft, United States Attorney General and Mr Ronald K. Noble, Interpol Secretary General
  Approaches adopted by police services specializing in combating illicit traffic in cultural property
  Future strategy proposed by the Interpol General Secretariat for combating the illicit traffic in Iraqi cultural property
  Contributions by other international organizations
  Operational police strategies: discussions and recommendations

 

Preliminary remarks

The meeting was chaired by Mr Willy Deridder, Executive Director, Police Services, Interpol General Secretariat, who thanked the participants for attending.

The role of Interpol was to assist the police of all nations, and it worked directly via its National Central Bureaus (NCBs) in the 181 member countries. At present, restoring the bureau in Baghdad to operational status was a priority.

The present meeting, uniting experts from the art trade, from museums and from law enforcement ,was intended as a discussion forum regarding how to integrate efforts towards resolving the serious criminal issue of antiquities stolen from Iraqi museums, libraries and excavation sites.

Mr Kind, Interpol General Secretariat, said that minutes of the meeting would be distributed once translated into the other official languages, and would be available on the Interpol website.

 

Opening speech By Mr Mounir Bouchenaki, Assistant Director General for Culture, UNESCO

The full text of Mr Bouchenaki's speech is available on the Interpol website. It reviews the meetings held at UNESCO headquarters in Paris on 17 April and at the British Museum on 29 April, and the future intentions of UNESCO regarding collaboration with Interpol and other experts on Iraqi antiquities regarding the current issues. UNESCO had also requested Mr Kofi Anan, Secretary General of the United Nations, to include an item on the agenda of the Security Council with a view to submitting an international resolution ratified by all States in order to prevent the importation of objects from Iraq.

 

Looting of cultural property in Iraq: Presentations by experts

Mr Yasser Tabbaa, Assistant Professor, University of Michigan, USA

Professor Tabbaa gave a brief overview of Islamic monuments in Iraq using the sub-sections: Early Islamic, Mediaeval in Baghdad and Mosul, Mediaeval Christian sites, and Shi'ite shrines. He also stressed the importance of the collections of the Iraq Museum in Baghdad and the Mosul Museum. Regarding the country's main libraries and archives, which also housed irreplaceable works, he noted that considerable damage and destruction appeared to have taken place. Reports from various sources, partly conflicting, nevertheless indicated that some manuscripts and other collections could be safe. The important issue at present was to assess the genuine extent of the damage and losses, and to find and repatriate looted antiquities. Even if some were found, however, the museums, libraries and universities of Iraq would take years to recover, and the USA and Europe should do their utmost to assist in the process.

Ms Roberta Ricciardi Venco, Professor of Archaeology, Turin University, Italy

Professor Venco explained the BRILA database developed in Italy following the 1st Gulf War in 1991, and published in the archaeology magazine 'Sumer'. This listed 2,500 objects looted from Iraqi museums, and included pictures and descriptions. Since it was essential to create a database of items now missing, this information and the database system were available to Interpol if it was of use to serve as a basis for further work.

Mr John Russell, Professor of Art History, Massachusetts College of Art, USA

Professor Russell described the general types of artefacts from Iraq most favoured by the illegal antiquities market, to assist in seizing and identifying them. The ten major categories were the following: objects with museum numbers on them or traces thereof; objects with Cuneiform writing (primarily in clay and stone but also in metal, ivory and pottery); cylinder seals; stamp seals; ivory; sculptures in stone, metal and clay; vessels in pottery and stone; metal; glass; and coins.

Mr Robert Dale Biggs, Professor of Assyriology, University of Chicago, USA

Professor Biggs said that collections in Iraq had been well managed until international sanctions since 1991 had caused financial havoc. He showed photographs of Cuneiform tablets that were mainly of unbaked clay and thus very fragile, and which were highly popular with smugglers because of their small size. He stressed that copies of all photographs and documents taken by expeditions from various countries were still in possession of the teams concerned, even if copies of these sent to the Iraq Museum had now been lost. These could prove useful in drawing up inventories. Concern nevertheless existed because of the looting of excavation sites that had been taking place since 1991. Artefacts from these would not have been recorded.

Professor Biggs and his staff were willing to offer assistance to identify any cuneiform items traced.

Mrs Bonnie Magness-Gardiner, Senior Cultural Property Analyst, US Department of State

Ms Magness-Gardiner explained the work of her department, and informed participants that the US State Department had allocated funding of USD 2 million torwards immediate and longer-term work on recovering and restoring Iraqi antiquities. To date, work had been based on the ICOM Red List, the American overseas research centre in Baghdad, and the State Department's searchable database of examples of Iraqi artefacts in the Iraq Museum.

The Department of Cultural Property implemented the 1970 UNESCO Convention on the Means of Prohibiting and Preventing the Illicit Import, Export and Transfer of Ownership of Cultural Property and consequently adopted their national legislation. The 1983 US Convention on Cultural Property Implementation Act permitted the US to impose import restrictions on looted objects when a nation's cultural heritage was in jeopardy, and to seize and return cultural property stolen from inventories collections in public institutions. Objects and documents taken from Iraqi museums, archives, libraries, monuments and archaeological sites were the property of the Iraqi nation under Iraqi and international law: they were therefore stolen property if they were taken away from Iraq. More information on Iraqi cultural heritage and the searchable database was available at http://exchanges.state.gov/culprop/, and the co-ordinator of the US government inter-agency efforts to resort Iraqi cultural heritage was Ms. Patricia Harrison, Acting Undersecretary for Public Affairs and Public Diplomacy.

Dr Irving Finkel, Assistant Keeper, Ancient and Near East, British Museum, UK

Dr Finkel referred to eyewitness accounts of looting by Dr. Donny George, Director General of the Department of Research and Studies at the State Board of Antiquities and Heritage in Iraq and other reports on damage and destruction: it was clear that some attacks on the Iraq Museum had been organised, and the artefacts had chosen for their value: casts had been left in place, although heavy original pieces had been taken, obviously with pre-arranged transport. It had been regrettable that despite pleas by Dr. George, American tanks had not moved into position to dissuade the looters. Recent information indicated, however, that some items, including records and inventories had been hidden in secure locations.

National radio and some Iraqi imams were now urging the population to return what had been taken, with some positive results. A reward system, or at least an amnesty for those who had stolen items, was highly advisable. The UK was presently working on such measures, and had taken this approach following the first Gulf War. However, it was essential to secure the borders of Iraq immediately to prevent more antiquities from being taken out of the country. Servicemen, for example, would be tempted to return home with keepsakes and customs checks for military personnel returning from Iraq should be thorough and extensive.

The British Museum would be prepared to act as a repository for any artefacts returned.

Ms Margarete Van Ess, Scientific Director, German Archaeological Institute, Berlin, Germany

Ms Van Ess noted that no concrete figures could be provided for the number of items missing from the various museums and sites, since many were not inventoried. Moreover, it was unclear how many artefacts and how much documentation was intact and in safekeeping. Reviewing the way in which records from institutions and excavation expeditions were organized, she stressed the difficulties of aligning the various systems. The data from various expeditions could nevertheless constitute considerable assistance in gaining an overview of what had been stolen.

Although attempts had been made to preserve various collections over recent, difficult years since the embargo of Iraq had come into force, numerous items had been damaged, lost or stolen, for example as a result of floods at the Iraq Museum, inadequate storage techniques, or theft from unguarded or illegal excavation sites. The pillaging was, in some cases, a result of the local population removing objects and attempting to sell them to meet their basic needs.

A first and effective measure to halt the flow of artefacts leaving Iraq would be a ban on the sale of all objects from Mesopotamia, as suggested by UNESCO. Sadly, however, the general public and many officials had no idea of where Mesopotamia was, or what the artefacts looked like. Creating awareness was thus essential.

Mr Richard Halverson, Senior Special Agent, Bureau of Customs and Border Protection, USA

Mr Halverson outlined the structure of the US Department of Homeland Security, whose customs services consisted of the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), and the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection (CBP). The recently created Operation Iraqi Heritage was a multi-phase project involving the US military plus domestic and foreign law enforcement agencies, and would concern issues on a domestic and international level. It would include a rewards programme to support investigations and recovery. Phase one was a joint international effort to inventory and identify stolen items, phase two involved the interdiction and recovery of stolen and looted items, and phase three would be a joint effort to repatriate them to the people of Iraq. The US Customs service had played a significant role in repatriating antiquities to other foreign countries in the past.

To date, some items in transit in the UK from Kuwait to the USA had been intercepted, and others had been seized in Virginia and Boston. The US Customs services were working actively to identify and seize other artefacts exported illegally. A very recent recovery appeared to be the priceless Warka vase, although in response to Dr. Finkel, Mr Halverson said that no precise details had been obtained but he would report back after asking for more information. On the following day, he was not able to provide confirmation regarding this item due to unreliable telecommunications with Baghdad but if the vase had been recovered he would inform Interpol and the participants at the meeting.
(Following the meeting, written confirmation was received from Mr Halverson that the Warka vase has not been recovered.)

Mrs Lynne Chaffinch, Art Theft Programme Manager, FBI, USA

Ms Chaffinch said that the FBI's response to the theft of antiquities would take place on both the short and long term, and that it had established an inter-agency working group to pool the unique resources of each. It had already begun networking with museums, dealers, and auction houses, and had established contact with Interpol regarding a future fact-finding mission to Kuwait. The FBI's Art Theft Department was also ready to collaborate with the other organizations and entities present at the meeting with a view to sharing and centralizing information. The FBI had maintained a national database on stolen art since 1979.

The first short-term goal within this crucial issue for humanity was to secure the artefacts that were presently in Iraq, in order to prevent further losses. It was also essential to prevent items from leaving the country and to take action in both transit and target countries. Legal issues, which were a major issue, should also be taken into account: US legislation made it difficult to retrieve items once they had entered the country unless documentary proof of theft existed.

Mr Vernon Rapley, New Scotland Yard, London, England, said that in the case of antiquities from Afghanistan, legislation had also proved to be problematic given that proof from the country of origin that theft had occurred was difficult to obtain when a country's legislation was unclear or details of it were unobtainable.

Mrs Magness-Gardiner said that an English translation of the Iraq Antiquities law was available, but it was hard to determine whether this could still be considered in effect within an occupied country.

Mrs Chaffinch added that it would also be necessary to determine if, and when, Iraqi laws ceased to exist as a result of the new order. Collaboration was essential in order to move rapidly on the entire issue, which would take many years to resolve.

Mr Bernard Darties (Acting Head of the Central Office for Combating illicit traffic in cultural property, France) said that speed was indeed essential since importing stolen goods was easy at present since counter-measures were still being developed.

Mr Olivier Rouault, Professor of Archaeology, Lyon 2 University, France

Professor Rouault stressed the necessity of educating the public regarding the specific nature of what had been stolen. The question of ethics was also important among all those involved: when presented with an artefact for valuation, should experts immediately suspect theft and report it to the authorities or assume the owner was honest?

Regarding unguarded sites and looting, he stressed the need for surveillance staff. The academic world was fighting against illegal excavations, but it was difficult to find the resources, either locally or funded from the exterior, to prevent such traffic.

The Gallo-Roman Museum in Lyon had planned to hold a major exhibition of Iraqi art, and had thus obtained extensive documentation from the Iraq Museum. This was at the disposal of the law enforcement and antiquities sector to serve as a reference.

Mr Jacques Lasfargues, Director of Lyon Archaeological Museum, France

Mr Lasfargues explained that various French missions had been undertaken to collect information with a view to holding the above-mentioned exhibition. The work had included taking 1,000 photographs, including those of showcases, with a view to selecting items to be shown. These had been forwarded to Interpol.

It was essential, before taking concerted international action of any Kind, to have a reliable inventory of what had really been stolen, since many items could have been placed in safekeeping: French journalists, for example, had stated that the ivory collections had already disappeared from showcases in January 2003. Whether items in storage had subsequently been damaged, however, was not yet known.

As Professor Rouault had said, it would be difficult for experts to feel they must suspect all those coming to them with artefacts for examination.

 

International initiatives to combat the traffic inIraqi cultural property: Exchange of views

Databases

Mr Julian Radcliffe, Chairman of the Art Loss Register, London, UK, said that the Art Loss Register possessed a searchable database on stolen works of art. In his opinion, any work on a future, jointly developed database for stolen Iraqi antiquities would be a long-term project since it was by no means clear what had actually been stolen or even what was missing. The question of whether to open any definitive database that was created developed to the public was another debatable issue, since if it were open, thieves would also use it in order to see if an item in their possession was listed. If it was not, the thief would be able to sell the item freely. The Art Loss Register had assisted the police in the past by carrying out controlled searches in conjunction with the art trade, following which the dealer concerned contacted the police if the item was identified as stolen. Mr Darties (France) shared the concern regarding open databases, although stressed that collaboration among all parties would be essential in order to create a reliable source of information.

Mr Deridder agreed that collaboration between the police and experts in art was necessary, but that structuring the work and the related database required careful reflection. In his opinion, a database of stolen items should be public or at least have a public part. Interpol already published extracts of its database on stolen works of art, and this would be developed and expanded to include Iraqi antiquities. Details of this would be presented later in the meeting. The access to the Interpol information did not, of course, disclose the information on suspects or other police information.

Mr Rapley was not in favour of offering public access to a database, since it was virtually impossible to create a database that was 100% reliable, even in the long term. Criminals could consult it and then claim that any object not included was thus legitimate.

Mr Richard Ellis, Invaluable / Trace database, London, UK, noted that he had worked on art and antiques at New Scotland Yard before joining this company that provided impartial information on antiques, fine art and premium collectibles to dealers, private buyers, museums and other institutions via the extremely comprehensive TRACE database (http://www.trace.co.uk).

Given the urgency of the situation, the input of art experts was essential since the police were not qualified or equipped to identify or inventory works of art. Items from Iraq would not fail to reach the trade by way of major markets such as New York, so information on antiquities, via both private and public sources, appeared essential. Thousands of enquiries regarding artefacts reached the Trace database per year, and Interpol was no doubt unable to provide the resources or expertise to handle them. Perhaps UNESCO could handle the administration of such a database? In any case, both the law enforcement and art worlds should find the means of acting jointly.

In the longer term, mechanisms for uniting the art trade, UNESCO, Interpol, and museums would be ideal, and not only for Iraq but also for other countries suffering losses to their national heritage, such as Afghanistan and the Lebanon. It was impossible to inventory items infallibly at present, given the current state of affairs, but in the best interests of Iraq it was essential to provide the best possible list, and to permit broad access to it.

Ms Danielle Maïano, World Customs Organization, Brussels, Belgium, also advocated collaboration between the police, customs authorities, UNESCO, museums and the art trade in drawing up an inventory with a view to establishing a database, since this would be an extremely complex task.

Mr James Edward Ede, Managing Director of the International Association of Dealers in Ancient Art, said that his Association had given instructions to its members that no items from Mesopotamia should be purchased or traded without certified provenance.

Regarding the future database, it was necessary to decide who should create and co-ordinate this, in order to avoid overlapping. Moreover, its structure neEded to be flexible, logical and appropriate. For instance, it would be difficult and time-consuming for law enforcement personnel to search among an estimated 40,000 cylinder seals to identify a single item, particularly since these were usually only exchanged for approximately USD 50.-.

Mr Ede also believed that the urgent necessity of returning items to Iraq should not be an excuse to suspend the rules of truth, and that it was essential for theft to be proved when artefacts came to light within the art world rather than automatically considering any Mesopotamian items to have been the object of a criminal act.

It was of course essential to return Iraq's treasures, and this also meant that returning items should not be made too difficult for those in possession of them. Petty thieves who were frightened of legal action could be tempted to destroy artefacts if they believed they would be punished when handing them to authorities. It was also necessary to realize that locking up middlemen dealing in such artefacts items would not always bring stolen or looted items to light.

Mr Taoufik Bouachba, Arab Interior Ministers Council felt that ideally, legislation concerning antiquities should be aligned.

He believed it would be appropriate for Interpol to co-ordinate the database, which would also serve Iraq in future since it would constitute a record of its heritage.

Mr Jean-Pierre Jouanny pointed out that no central database existed specifically for Iraqi artefacts. Networking among various sectors and databases, although not without merit, was not an ideal solution in this case. Given the urgency of the situation, a single source for identifying items appeared considerably more useful.

Dr Rodolfo Ronconi, Director of International Police Co-Operation and Head of NCB Rome, stressed that Italy was ready to contribute towards a rich database on stolen works of art from Iraq. The Italian Carabinieri had handed Interpol details of 700 items known to be stolen.

Mr Radcliffe explained that the rules for antiquities dealers required dealers to consult the Art Loss Register for items of above a certain value. Some dealers tended to believe that a check of the register was all that was necessary in order to eliminate doubts regarding legitimacy, although the register was incomplete and even checks with other sources did not constitute proof that an item had not been stolen.

Once a database for Iraqi antiquities had been established by those involved, the Art Loss Register would be prepared to add it to its own resources, and provide it as an extension to its services available free of charge. Dealers using it would thus have some proof of due diligence. Searches on the database should nevertheless be carried out by experts. Mr Rapley (UK) did not, however, feel that such a search constituted due diligence: some criminals would proceed to the checks while fully aware that an item was not listed as stolen, and then claim the right to sell it since it was not included.

Mr Jean-Robert GISLER, Archaeologist, Swiss FEderal Police, Bern, Switzerland felt it was impossible to wait until a full list was available to make a database available.

Ms Silvelie Karfeld, German FEderal Police, was concerned that any database could only show a very small proportion of the artefacts missing since so many, particularly from excavation sites, had not been documented.

Professor Russell said that Iraq was not represented at the meeting and was thus unable to add input. However, Iraqi experts should be included when creating the database.

Dr Finkel stressed that Iraq had indicated that it would not release details of items in safekeeping until the coalition forces had left the country, which rendered inventories difficult to constitute. He believed that the first move necessary was to provide a list of the types of items missing, showing examples. It should be noted that a great many artefacts arriving in Europe or the USA from the Middle East at present were highly likely to be stolen.

Mr Kind felt that art dealers required access to information: the police could not accuse them of dishonesty if they were unable to check databases. A single database for Iraqi antiquities seemed more appropriate than attempting to inter-connect those that existed. Such attempts were frequently unsuccessful, such as the Global Retrieval Access and Information System (GRASP), project, whose intention had been to link databases in England and Europe. Europol were also working on a similar system, but few databases were compatible with each other.

More information regarding Interpol's proposals for a database would be presented later in the meeting: Interpol was fully aware of its limitations regarding expertise and its need for guidance regarding the artefacts to be included.

Mr Deridder confirmed to Mrs Van Ess that use would be made of existing information within the database, although this would take time. Mr Ellis added that migration problems existed between various databases, and that it would have to be clear which items were stolen and which only missing.

Legislation

Mr Rapley also felt Interpol could provide assistance regarding information on various countries' legislation, and Mr Ellis noted that UNESCO was working on a searchable database for legislation on movable heritage items but this was not complete.

Mr Bouchenaki said that work in this area continued. UNESCO was also seeking legal advice regarding what legislation was still in force in Iraq at present, noting that Iraq had ratified the UNESCO conventions of 1954 and 1970 on cultural property and possessed a World Heritage Site - Hatra - which inspired concern regarding possible looting. Further sites in Iraq were being considered for UNESCO's list as having potential for inclusion or as being endangered.

Ms Sharon FLESCHER, Executive Director, International Foundation for Art Research, USA, said that the IFAR had updated its resources concerning legislation but this was not complete since not all countries responded. Translations were frequently neEded.

Mr Darties pointed out that legislation remained a major issue in order for the use of any database to be helpful. For example, the legally accepted time limits within which action could be taken by various countries concerning stolen property also varied, as did definitions regarding what constituted theft as opposed to receiving and concealing stolen property. It was also necessary to determine, in certain countries, whether such thefts constituted crimes or misdemeanours. There were also several types of theft: firstly, this concerned small items taken as 'souvenirs', and those who stolen them may now be hiding them, fearing reprisals. Other types of thief would keep artefacts for sale later, once there was less focus on the issue. It had also been indicated that some thefts had been organized carefully, possibly on behalf of individuals who had placed orders, and these would wherever possible leave the country rapidly. However, no proof had yet been obtained of international trafficking rings operating in this way.

Other measures taken or envisaged

Mr Bouachba believed it was essential to exchange information between all parties regarding what type of items could have been stolen or were in transit. He felt that UNESCO had the necessary influence to expedite matters, particularly regarding communication, but also urged all States to co-operate and act as fast as possible. A UN resolution to forbid the import of goods from Mesopotamia, as mentioned by Mr Bouchenaki, would be a major step forwards.

The Arab Interior Ministers Council had acknowledged and applauded the initiative to organize the present meeting, and expressed its willingness to co-operate fully in efforts to restore cultural property to Iraq.

Mr Ali ben Salah Al-Moghanam, Assistant Under-Secretary for Museums, Al Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, said that his country also strongly condemned the thefts and destruction in Iraq. Saudi Arabia would stop the importation of Iraqi treasures at all its borders, and all law enforcement bodies and the army had received instructions to this effect.

Mr Mamdooh Al-Nasser, Criminal Detection Department, Jordanian police, NCB Amman, stated that the Jordanian police had enforced restrictions regarding imported antiquities following the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1991. At the time, many forgeries of artefacts had been found. Jordan was now trying to anticipate what would be forged following the recent thefts, and would carry out controls among shops selling antiques since these could be outlets for looted property or for fake items.

Although Professor Russell was sceptical that a large amount of artefacts were still in the country and suspected that a great deal of them had been taken out of Iraq, particularly from unguarded sites, ever since the last Gulf War in 1991, Mr Ede pointed out that with every week that past more objects could disappear or cross borders.

Mr Al-Nasser stressed the importance of working with Iraqi experts in order to ascertain what remained in the country.

Mr Dirk Deklerck, Art Research Team, Belgian Federal Police, felt it was necessary to bear in mind that some trafficking should be anticipated in the future even if many artefacts remained in Iraq. He added that after the last Gulf war, many Iraqis, journalists and organizations had removed items when leaving the country. In the present case, however, many of the individuals involved in looting were still present in Iraq.

Mr Walid Yasin Ismail, Archaeological Advisor, Department of Antiquities and Tourism, United Arab Emirates, said that co-operation in the Middle East regarding archaeology was not well developed. The NCBs in the region should attempt to bring in local archaeologists to assess items discovered in transit.

He also felt that if a great deal of material remained in Iraq, it should be possible to retrieve it but that the Iraqi population should be encouraged to return items and rewarded for doing so. It was essential to avoid individuals stealing items in order to survive financially given the current situation.

Some wealthier Arab collectors would be interested in obtaining Iraqi artefacts, but most of them were known. He believed they would react positively if UNESCO or Interpol appealed to them to return cultural property.

Mr Ede had gained the impression that in fact more material remained in Iraq than had been initially believed. Although aware that Interpol did not deal with military issues, he nevertheless believed it had sufficient influence to request the USA to block the Iraqi borders in order to prevent further losses. Could the USA consider establishing a 'pack of cards' for major treasures, similar to that established for members of the former regime?

Professor Russell strongly recommended seizing suspicious items at borders, and including the less common objects on the ICOM Red List, and Mr Ellis added that Interpol should alert Iraq's neighbours to search for items leaving the country, since Iraqi officials and authorities may be unable to do so.

Ms Maïano said that the World Customs Organization had already issued a warning to all its regions in March.

Mr Kind said that the Interpol General Secretariat had already sent messages to all its member countries informing them of the situation regarding the theft of cultural property from Iraq, in order to increase awareness and urge them to be vigilant. However, it could not yet provide details of specific items stolen and did not wish to intervene within matters dealt with by ICOM. An ICOM meeting would be held at the General Secretariat on 7 May concerning the Red List and the inclusion of Iraqi antiquities. Interpol would then publish a list of major items at risk extremely rapidly.

Dr. Finkel stressed that no 'national authorities' currently existed in Iraq, so wondered who Interpol would work with within Iraq since its mandate did not permit it to work with military forces. Mr Deridder (Interpol General Secretariat) said that this was why it was necessary to have an Interpol office running in Baghdad as soon as possible.

Ms Karfeld believed that Interpol should not wait until Iraq had a new government before acting and urged all present to confirm their commitment to contributing their available resources.

Conclusions

Mr Bouchenaki appreciated the useful exchange of information regarding the situation and future measures envisaged. UNESCO had worked in similar situations before, for example when returning items to Kuwait, Cambodia and Afghanistan. Its aim in the longer term was to train local experts and local police to handle issues surrounding stolen and looted works of art.

Discussions had already taken place with Interpol regarding the strategy for Iraqi antiquities, and support had been offered by the police forces of various countries, including Italy, Switzerland and Japan.

The Red List issued by ICOM, the International Council of Museums, (see http://icom.museum/redlist/) was a useful tool for creating awareness among museums and the public and had at times incited those in possession of works of art to return them upon discovering they were stolen.

Many countries and bodies could offer valuable help regarding the issue of stolen and looted artefacts from Iraq and he was pleased to see such willingness to collaborate. First, it was necessary to decide upon urgent, immediate steps and then to continue the work on the longer term.

A safe location was also required for objects recovered pending their return. Dr. Finkel confirmed that the British Museum was prepared to store Iraqi antiquities recovered.

Mr Chris Eaton (Interpol General Secretariat) summarised the concrete issues discussed so far, beginning with the consensus regarding the need for a single database as a technical response. Several participants had advocated the first step of including typical objects - a step already taken by the State Department of the USA.

Regarding access, Interpol believed it would be possible to provide both public access to information and more restricted details including police data: further details on the plans would be presented the following day.

The need for integrating the sectors of art, museums, trade and law enforcement in order to return antiquities to Iraq and to handle criminals involved therein appeared clear, and a concrete proposal was being drawn up for Interpol to co-ordinate such a group. Partnership with UNESCO was a key aspect given this organization's experience and resources regarding world cultural heritage.

Mr Eaton again stressed that Interpol was attempting to re-establish its National Central Bureau in Baghdad, and once this was running every effort would be made to contact and work with local antiquities experts. This would also assist in clarifying legislation issues.

Mr Deridder underlined that the purpose of the present meeting was to determine the roles of Interpol and UNESCO, and to examine synergies and co-operation from other fields. It should be borne in mind, however, that Interpol had no capacity to make field enquiries and not did it possess wide expertise regarding antiquities: its role was to collect, co-ordinate and disseminate information, including that concerning stolen works of art.

Concluding the day's discussions, he noted that co-operation between Interpol and UNESCO regarding the issue would continue and be built upon, as would contact with representatives from the art and antiquities sector. It was of course necessary for law enforcement agencies to focus on stolen items and the criminals behind the thefts, although Interpol nevertheless greatly valued the input it had received from experts present during this first day of the meeting. The arts trade would not be present at the second day of the meeting, which would be dedicated to law enforcement issues, but those representatives would be provided with information regarding conclusions drawn and steps taken by means of communiqués from Interpol and information published on its website.

 

6 May 2003

Introduction to operational police strategies

Mr Saoud Al Mahmood (Interpol General Secretariat) gave a presentation on the Interpol Response Team on Stolen Iraqi Art, of which he was the chairman. Interpol had wished to play an active role since the beginning of the 2003 war, and had contacted the police and directors of national museums and libraries in neighbouring countries at a very early stage in order to trigger rapid reaction, including border controls, to stop antiquities leaving the country. Interpol had also organised a fact-finding mission to Kuwait and worked in close collaboration with the FBI. Meetings had also taken place with experts on Iraqi antiquities in neighbouring countries, and contact was sought with local Iraqi experts although it had not been possible for these individuals to attend the discussions in Kuwait.

UNESCO's intentions to provide assistance and collaboration for a future joint mission to Iraq were extremely welcome, and it was hoped this would take place without delay and include local experts from the field of antiquities, the museums and law enforcement. Many individuals from Iraq were anxious to express their opinions on the situation, but had been unable to attend the present meeting for administrative reasons.

Television broadcasts would soon be restored in Iraq, and it was hoped this could be used to encourage members of the population to return looted or stolen items.

As other members of the General Secretariat had stated, efforts were under way with a view to re-opening the NCB in Baghdad, which would make it easier to co-ordinate with Iraqi experts. On this subject, Mr Deridder (Interpol General Secretariat) said that re-opening the NCB was important, but that this was only part of the measures required within international police co-operation on this issue.

Mr Jouanny noted that all Interpol's member countries could consult its stolen art database, which he demonstrated to the participants. To date, the information provided had only been for research purposes but the next stage would be for a more interactive approach. Ideally, UNESCO art experts would be able to enter data directly to the databases and the information then transferred to the Internet and then the public. The database thesaurus of codes and categories in Arabic was completed, so a full translation would soon be available. The free text field would not, however, support Arabic input.

To questions from Ms Magness-Gardiner and Ms. Van Ess, Mr Jouanny said that Interpol's database could not automatically add information from other databases, so this would have to be re-entered. UNESCO experts had collaborated on the existing database, and the process was rapid once users were familiar with it. For instance, for similar artefacts such as seals, it was possible to copy and then modify from a first entry for that category. Although not all fields were compulsory, it was clearly useful to include as much information as possible in order to assist police and customs experts who were not familiar with the objects.

Mr Darties, responding to a comment by Mr Deridder that Interpol focused on crime issues alone, said that although the needs of law enforcement and the antiquities sector concerning information required differed in some respects, it was important to acquire as much information as possible and then tailor this to requirements. The antiquities sector should obviously not be able to access police elements. Mr Jouanny noted that no police information was included on the information made available openly by Interpol.

In reply to Professor Russell regarding copyright issues concerning material published on websites and related to Iraqi artefacts, Mr Kind said that Interpol only published material on request by its members, and did not own that information. Mr Eaton said that Interpol did not ask for copyright information from its NCBs, which were responsible for this and could indicate copyright issues if these existed.

 

Speeches by Mr John Ashcroft, United States Attorney General and Mr Ronald K Noble, Interpol Secretary General

The prepared remarks by Mr Ashcroft and the speech given by Mr Noble (in English) can be found on the Interpol website.

Mr Ashcroft appreciated the initiative to create a working group dedicated to restoring Iraq's cultural heritage and congratulated its participants for their willingness to collaborate. He stressed Interpol's long-standing efforts in tracing stolen works of art, and in general its role in combating crime. After reviewing the measures already taken by the USA regarding the looting of antiquities and the current situation in that country, he stressed the determination of the American nation to return Iraq's past to its people and in doing so to contribute towards its future. This would be a major challenge but one worthy of Interpol and its mission.

Mr Noble outlined the work and mission of Interpol and its success in responding rapidly and effectively to transnational crime, and referred to its activities concerning stolen works of art since 1947. Interpol's experience had shown that many stolen items were recovered in their country of origin, which might also be the case for Iraq. Interpol had reacted immediately to looting in Iraq by setting up a team to assess the situation, providing web space and calling this conference aimed at defining a comprehensive international strategy for returning items looted to their rightful homes. In doing so, Interpol would support the work of UNESCO and ICOM regarding a database of artefacts that existed and which of them were missing.

Together with experts from its General Secretariat , designated officers from its NCBs and member country police forces, Interpol planned to form a special task force based in the Iraqi region to work on the issue. Countries of the world would be given an opportunity to contribute to a special fund designed to help police recover looted property from Iraq and to help in re-establishing a new Interpol NCB in Iraq, connected to the Interpol global communication system.
Finally, he called for responsibility on the part of all when discussing the issue of looting until the facts were known with certainty, and dedication in gathering these facts as rapidly and efficiently as possible.

 

Approaches adopted by police services specializing in combating illicit traffice in cultural property

Lieutenant Colonel Ferdinando Musella, Chief of Operations, Carabinieri Cultural Property Unit, Rome, Italy

Lt. Col Musella said that the Italian database on stolen cultural objects in Italy and throughout the world was one of the largest of its Kind. It included photographs and police information. The major traffickers on an international level were only a few dozen in number, and the hubs they used in Europe were mainly Switzerland and the UK, where false documents were obtained for the artefacts to enter legal markets. The database included 750 items that had disappeared from Iraq since 1991, thanks to the BRILA project described earlier in the meeting by Ms. Venco. More information on it was available at: http://www.carabinieri.it/tap/tpa.asp

Mr Claudio Fiorini, Customs Officer, Italian Customs Headquarters, Rome, Italy

Mr Fiorini stressed the collaboration between the Italian police and customs authorities. The customs service had developed an automated alert system, and exchanged information with other European customs services. Customs offers were however not experts on antiquities, so the more information available to them, the more efficiently they could identify suspicious items.

Mr Rodolfo Ronconi, head of the Italian NCB

Mr Ronconi, as a police officer, believed in sharing information to obtain results. This was the reason for which he had handed Interpol details of 700 items believed stolen from Iraq, as recorded by the Italian police. In his opinion, action was essential, and it would be useful to hold a meeting including all police forces involved in the theft of works of art, whether a target or transit country. He strongly supported the notion of protecting an ancient civilisation as valuable as Mesopotamia, to which the world owed so much. Italy would do everything within its power to assist in all operations.

Commander Bernard Darties, Acting Head of the French Central Office for combating illicit traffic in cultural property, France

Mr Darties said that France had suffered large numbers of art thefts, and the Central Office had been set up in 1975 to work in this area. France had worked on increasing awareness in its customs services, but fully supported the idea of a single database as a tool. Regarding the restitution of artefacts, he warned that if these were not found soon and wherever possible seized at borders, it would be extremely difficult to return them to Iraq. If an item had entered the country, and if the deadline for seizing it expired without Iraq proving its legal ownership, a collector who could prove he had purchased it in good faith could only be forced to surrender it out of goodwill.

Regarding Iraq, he hoped that the USA would soon issue concrete information regarding the thefts in Iraq, including the type (looting, organised theft) as soon as possible, since no details regarding international traffic were yet known. The role of Interpol within the entire issue was a key one from a police point of view, but without operational information from the USA it was difficult to advance or to obtain a good grasp of realities concerning the fate of Iraq's antiquities.

The problem of what legislation existed or was in force in Iraq complicated the entire issue. At present, it was not clear what, if any, local laws existed or were valid. Moreover, there was little point in compiling various countries' legislation regarding stolen works of art if the laws of source, transit and target countries were not compatible.

Finally, the issue of art treasure from Iraq was now a focus for the media, but would this still be so in 2-3 years? Sadly, once public awareness was no longer high, attempts to remedy such a situation tended to peter out.

Mr Deridder assured those present that Interpol had no intention of letting its attention to the issue fade over time.

Mr Rapley felt it was impossible to wait until the US supplied more data. Antiquities had been flooding out of Iraq ever since 1991 and every effort should be made to halt the flow. One immediate measure possible would be to monitor known offenders in this field. Mr Eaton (Interpol General Secretariat) fully agreed with the latter suggestion, which would be an ideal starting point for a future Interpol Task Force on the subject of stolen Iraqi antiquities.

Mr Bouachba said that the Council of Arab Interior Ministers wondered if the thefts could be classified as a crime against humanity. It also felt that specific, international law on the theft of international treasures was necessary and supported the proposal by UNESCO for a UN resolution to ban the import of antiquities from Iraq. In its role as a co-ordinator of police activities, Interpol could use its influence to recommend and support various actions proposed.

 

Future strategy proposed by the Interpol General Secretariat for combating the illict traffic in Iraqi Cultural property

A document presenting draft conclusions was handed out to the participants (see Document)

Mr Kind (Interpol General Secretariat) presented the framework for Interpol's future action regarding stolen works of art. To date, Interpol had handled a regular flow of information, added it to the database, CD-ROMs for distribution and the website. The current situation brought a new challenge and thus the expanded database, project Tiresias, would require co-operation with partner countries and international organizations active in this field, in particular UNESCO. The existing database would be enhanced to include some key items from Iraq extremely rapidly, and a special section would be published on the Interpol website within days or even hours. In the longer term, the database would be further refined to make it more interactive and accessible. Interpol also intended to make the entire stolen art database available on the public website in the future.

Interpol also intended to further co-operation by creating an Expert Group on Stolen Cultural property and a Multi-National Tracking Task Force to turn intelligence into concrete action. The Expert Group would comprise 10-12 members, including experts in antiquities, cultural property, law enforcement and lawyers from Interpol member countries, and particularly those concerned by the illicit export and import of antiquities. It would act as an advisory board to Interpol regarding locating and identifying objects and provide information on the capacity of existing national laws to aid in returning these.

The Tracking Task Force would consist of law enforcement officers, and would create a network of contact points to aid law enforcement agencies and relevant organization with a view to taking action regarding stolen items and to detect trafficking by providing a sound basis for intelligence and operational co-ordination. Specific actions, to be agreed upon by members, would be reinforcing border controls, checks on the art market where appropriate and feasible, improving information exchange regarding offenders, modus operandi, routes, concealment techniques, and planning targeted operations based on crime analysis.

Mr Eaton said that Interpol would inform its NCBs and the international community of all its intentions and actions rapidly. Moreover, the Interpol Response team, set up to handle possible crimes arising from the situation and interventions in Iraq had been extended to work on the issue of looting once this had begun, and an art expert had been seconded to the team. All Interpol work was carried out on the basis of crime programmes and projects, and member countries shared in them as they wished, on a voluntary basis, so the group concerning Iraqi antiquities would be no exception. Interpol's idea, in this case, was to assemble existing skills and co-ordinate with the world's police forces.

In response to Mr Bouachba, Mr Kind said that the proposed Task Force for tracking Iraqi stolen property would include representatives of the police and the customs services from Iraq, from neighbouring and destination countries of the items.

Ms Karfeld hoped that concrete work on inventories and databases would soon begin, and particularly stressed the importance of having contact points available regarding legislation in various countries.

Professor Russell noted that the presence of an expert in conservation was necessary for any entity making inventories or databases of what was still present in Iraq.

Mr Jouanny said that more information regarding databases would be available after the meeting with ICOM to be held the following day, and more specifically with a view to a Red List for Iraqi artefacts. The future Experts Group described in the document distributed would develop the idea of contact points.

Mr Carducci (UNESCO) said that it was vital for an experts' mission to reach Iraq soon, and Mrs Hilary Bauer, Department of Culture, Media and Sport, London, England, said that given the apparent chaos, creating an inventory on site would be a highly complex task.

Mr Bryan Hanley, National Expert in the Conduct of Art and Cultural Property Investigations, Canberra, Australia, said that some of the museums and sites were contaminated crime scenes, and that they required examination. Australia had offered practical assistance within a multi-disciplinary team that included Iraqi specialists. The important aspect now was to act rapidly.

 

Contributions by other international organizations

Mr Guido Carducci, Head of the International Standards Division, Cultural Heritage Division, UNESCO

Mr Carducci stressed the need for finding and identifying objects stolen or looted rapidly and efficiently, and the fact that the current situation was unclear. A multi-disciplinary approach was thus called for. UNESCO would be sending a mission to Baghdad within the next few days, and it would begin its work by searching for and using any inventories of cultural property available. UNESCO, he added, encouraged voluntary restitution of antiquities rather than taking legal measures. Moreover, it had requested the Secretary General of the UN to examine the possibility of submitting a draft resolution to the Security Council to ban the export of cultural property from Iraq.

Regarding the co-ordination of databases, all participants at this meeting were entitled to write to UNESCO, confirming their agreement for UNESCO to link its website to theirs and thus providing access to their existing databases of stolen works of art. The specific Iraq database to be created rapidly would be co-ordinated by UNESCO in collaboration with Interpol, and meetings would be held to finalize this approach.

The existing UNESCO Conventions on stolen cultural property were of assistance, but although the 1954 Convention for the Protection of Cultural Property in the Event of Armed Conflict had been ratified by Iraq, the USA and the UK had not done so. The 1970 Convention on the Means of Prohibiting and Preventing the Illicit Import, Export and Transfer of Ownership of Cultural Property had now been ratified by 97 countries, including the USA, the UK and France, and was a useful tool for the restitution of inventoried items but not of illicitly excavated items. Article 13 of this stated that restitution relied on laws of the country importing the objects. More countries were expected to ratify this Convention, although at the time it was established, its focus was on co-operation and no precise penal law conditions had been concluded.

To retrieve very important individual objects, Iraq may also wish to appeal to the UNESCO Inter-Governmental Committee, a consultative group that facilitated negotiations between countries.

Mr Bouachba said it would be difficult for Iraq to take such action since at present it had no government, to which Mr Carducci replied that objects could be submitted to the Committee once a government was in place. The Committee only facilitated discussions and had no legal powers, and could intervene only concerning only a very small number of priceless, unique items.

Mr Carducci also noted that UNESCO was tackling established legislation on cultural heritage in all countries, but that this was a long-term undertaking. The question of whether restitution of looted or stolen antiquities could fall within international laws and treaties was being examined. If the source and target countries had both ratified the 1970 UNESCO Convention on the Means of Prohibiting and Preventing the Illicit Import, Export and Transfer of Ownership of Cultural Property, this simplified matters. However, if there was a need to prove theft, it was necessary for this to be included in the local law of the country from which an item was stolen.

Mr Darties pointed out that UNESCO nevertheless had no legal power, and if one or more countries involved in trafficking antiquities had not ratified the 1970 convention, UNESCO was unfortunately unable to achieve a great deal.

Mr Manus brinkman, ICOM Secretary General

Mr brinkman noted that ICOM formed part of the Blue Shield, a Committee comprising the International Council of Archives, the International Council of Museums, the International Council on Monuments and Sites, and the International FEderation of Library Associations and Institutions. It had recently met to discuss the situation in Iraq, and emphasized the fact that that not only theft but also destruction had taken place, particularly concerning libraries and archives and asked UNESCO and Interpol to bear this in mind during its future work on the issue. It had also expressed regret that funding pledged for assistance during such crises by many countries failed to materialize once media attention had waned.

ICOM focused on raising awareness regarding the identification of antiquities, collaborated regularly with Interpol and UNESCO, and held workshops for customs authorities, the police and the art trade. Training in object identification helped museums that had no sophisticated inventory or identification system.

ICOM also published a Red List of most endangered items in specific continents, which had proved a successful tool for recovery. An emergency Red List concerning Iraq was now under consideration. This would state categories of items missing in order to aid recognition by police and customs, and would be available in English, French and Arabic. A meeting was planned on 7 May, involving specialists from the present meeting, to draft such a list, which would then be highly publicized, made available on the web and disseminated to interested parties, including the World Customs Organization, with which ICOM had a Memorandum of Understanding. He hoped that funding from the US State Department would support this work. The list would most likely be available within days.

Replying to Mr Tabbaa, he said that archives and libraries would be taken into consideration for the Red List, but that it was extremely difficult to assess the degree of damage and losses that had taken place to them yet.

 

Operational police strategies: Discussions and recommendations

Ms Karfeld said that the details of experts in national legislation regarding stolen cultural property should be made available to those working on the Iraq situation. Countries involved could then contact them when encountering legal issues.

Mr Deridder said that Interpol had foreseen this. Since it was impossible to create a database of legislation for all areas of crime, it would establish contact points whenever possible and would offer assistance in finding legislation applying to specific cases. Mr Carducci (UNESCO) stressed that UNESCO was working on a database of legislation on stolen cultural property, but this was a difficult task that moreover required funding. It would also require considerable and ongoing input from member states to keep it updated since legislation changed frequently. At present, the only solution for resolving legal problems in this area was that of bilateral agreements. For Iraq, it was urgent to know what law would be applicable for issues relating to stolen antiquities. If possible, Interpol or UNESCO should publish current Iraqi law on its website.

Regarding the proposed Interpol database, Professor Russell asked whether this would include items that were known to be missing, or those that appeared to be missing. It would be a lengthy task if proof of theft was required. Moreover, a very large number of items had not been inventoried so these could not be included.

Mr Deridder stressed that as a law enforcement database, it was only possible to include those that were confirmed as stolen or missing. The information would be provided by museums, UNESCO, and Interpol NCBs.

Mr Carducci said that it would also take many months even to record what was missing, and to compare what was present before with what was still in place at present. However, there appeared to be no other way of proceeding. Mr brinkman wondered if UNESCO could work on a database of all items missing or suspected as having been stolen.

Mr Hanley suggested interviewing curators and museum staff in Iraq to see what they actually knew.

Mr Halverson wished to know what could be done with found items before the database was operational, and who would decide whether items had definitely been stolen? Mr Deridder replied that if either the coalition representatives or Iraqi authorities confirmed an item as stolen, this should be accepted as such. At present, due to a lack of knowledge regarding the valid legislation, it was difficult to know who was responsible for preserving items found, although once the Baghdad NCB was operational, this could be used for co-ordinating what was to be done with found items.

Mr Jouanny added that it would also be difficult to arrest suspected thieves of objects since there was no legal basis for this unless some form of proof of crime existed. It was also essential to realise that any items from excavations or other artefacts intercepted by any customs or law enforcement agencies could not automatically be assumed as stolen property.

Mr Carducci said that there was less risk regarding assumed theft with antiquities from Iraq: if an individual could not prove official ownership, it could be presumed stolen.

Ms Charlotte Van Rappard-Boon, Chief Inspector for Cultural Heritage, Netherlands, said that when objects were found, searches could be made on databases and in catalogues, so links to websites and resources would be welcome.

Mr Lasfargues again urged all involved to act rapidly, since traffic in artefacts would otherwise increase. It was also vital to gain access to stores and vaults in Iraq.

Ms Magness-Gardiner stressed that the US Department of State's database was ready to go live and could be made available to other interested parties.

Ms Maïano said that it was important for customs officers to seize items rather than letting them into countries, after which legal proceedings would be necessary.

Ms Laureen Cremin, US Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement wondered if instead of Interpol's proposal, 2 working groups should be created: one for assessment and investigation and another for recovery and repatriation. Mr Deridder nevertheless felt it was UNESCO's role to carry out assessment of artefacts since Interpol had no expertise here. The Task Force proposed by Interpol was focused on law enforcement rather than recovery, since again this was a broad issue and beyond Interpol's mandate.

In reply to Ms Karfeld, Mr Halverson said that US Customs could temporarily seize an item if no proof of ownership existed, and the claimed owner could file a lawsuit to recover it. Mr Michael PALMER, former Head of the Australian FEderal Police, added that existing databases would help confirm suspicions regarding whether items were stolen until a better one was produced.

Mr Rapley had originally believed that the Interpol database should include all data on cultural property in Iraq. However, if it was restricted to items confirmed as stolen, in line with its law enforcement role, a wider one was also necessary. He remained against the idea of Interpol making the list public, however, and at least initially, since thieves would be tempted to claim an artefact was not stolen simply because it was not included on the Interpol database.

Responding to Mr Halverson and Professor Russell, Mr Jouanny agreed that collaboration was essential between all parties. The future Task Force would establish as many contact points for organizations, entities and specialized departments as possible and place this at the disposal of police forces and customs. Interpol would of course put seized and unidentified objects on the Interpol website in the appropriate section.

Mr Eaton then explained several drafting modifications proposed by those present and by the Interpol General Secretariat. This was then approved in its final form and would be published by Interpol and the recommendation would be forwarded to all appropriate parties.

Mr Deridder wished to conclude the proceedings by urging all present to remain in contact with each other and with Interpol. Other meetings would be held at the General Secretariat concerning stolen and looted antiquities from Iraq, and naturally Intepol's work on the issue would continue. In reply to Mr Kazushi INOUE, National Police Agency, Tokyo, Japan, he stated that funding for such operations would be found and information on the human and technical sources involved would be communicated to Interpol's member countries in due course.

He thanked all those present for their enthusiasm and for their highly interesting input and proposals. Interpol had learned a great deal from all those present, and would use the valuable information obtained in its own future work.

Thanking the interpreters, he closed the meeting at 17.15 hrs.

 

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